Headquarters
New York Wing, Civil Air Patrol
United States Air Force Auxiliary
817 Stewart Avenue (Rear)
Garden City, NY 11530-4856
Cadet Advisory Council
Minutes of the New York City Cadet Advisory Council meeting, 09 December
2000.
TO:NYWG Director of Cadet Program
and all NYWG Assistant Directors of Cadet Program, Group Commanders, and
Cadet Wing CAC Representatives
NOTE: THESE MINUTES ARE A REPORT OF DISCUSSIONS
BY CADET REPRESENTATIVES. NO ACTION IS TO BE TAKEN AS A RESULT OF
ANYTHING PRINTED HEREIN (EXCEPT FURTHER DISCUSSIONS BY UNIT CAC's). ALL
CHANGES MADE WILL BE MADE THROUGH PROPER CHANNELS.
The motion to begin the 12 August, 2000 meeting of
the New York Wing's Cadet Advisory Council was made by Jennifer A. Neville,
C/1st Lt, CAP and seconded by Ian Vonie, C/2nd Lt,
CAP at 1020 hrs.
ATTENDANCE:
A. Council Officers:
Chairperson Jennifer A. Neville, C/1st
Lt, CAP
Vice-Chairperson (South) Brian Foo, C/ Lt Col, CAP
Vice-Chairperson (North) Adam Cucchiara, C/Capt, CAP
Recorder Patrick Parker, C/1st Lt, CAP
B. Group Representatives:
Adirondack Mountain Primary - Not Present
Alternate- Not Present
Catskill Mountain Primary - Sean Tinston,
C/MSgt, CAP
Alternate -
Terence Van Hise, C/MSgt, CAP
Central New York Primary - Mike Perry,
C/2nd Lt, CAP Alternate - Michael Kieloch, C/1st
Lt, CAP
Finger Lakes Primary - Missy Mortimer,
C/2nd Lt, CAP
Alternate -
Anthony Rocco, C/1st Lt, CAP
Long Island Primary - Not
Present
Alternate -
Not Present
Mid-East Group Primary - Ian Vonie, C/2nd
Lt, CAP
Alternate - Not Present
New York City Primary - Sophia Giddens,
C/MSgt, CAP
Alternate - Brian Owuseni, C/SMSgt,
CAP
South Central Primary - Not Present
Alternate - Not Present
South East Primary - Not Present
Alternate - Gustin Stamatinos,
C/2nd Lt, CAP
Western New York Primary - Not Present
Alternate - Kevin Christner,
C/2nd Lt, CAP
C. Senior Staff:
Cadet Programs
Officer Henry Grullon, Major, CAP
Other seniors Present None
Present
D. Guests:
Observers
Sean Gavin, C/1st Lt, CAP (CMG)
Rashimee Wilson, C/AMN, CAP (CNYG)
Robert O’Neal, C/A1C, CAP (CNYG)
Andrew Tascione, C/SSgt, CAP (FLG)
Alec Martin, C/2nd Lt, CAP (MEG)
Stephen Fox, C/SMSgt, CAP (MEG)
Elliot Allen, C/MSgt, CAP (WNYG)
James Stark, C/SrA, CAP (WNYG)
Max Elia, C/MSgt, CAP (WNYG)
Nick Kempton, C/2nd Lt, CAP (WNYG)
Richard Ball, C/TSgt, CAP (WNYG)
Robynn Murrat, C/A1C, CAP (WNYG)
Robert Hark, C/MSgt, CAP (WNYG)
Steve Ganczewski, C/MSgt, CAP (WNYG)
Other Guests None Present
REVIEW OF MINUTES:
1025 hrs - Review of the CAC Minutes for 06 MAR
00.
1032 hrs - Change by C/2nd Lt Perry (tour of 175th
changed to 174th)
1034 hrs- Motion to vote on accepting the minutes
by C/1st Lt Neville; seconded by C/MSgt Stamatinos.
Unanimous vote to accept the revised minutes.
GROUP REPORTS (1035 hrs):
CMG:
- Basic training day a success in customs
& courtesies
- First aid & CPR course
- Group Bivouac/SAREXes
- Monthly orientation flights
- Three of five squadrons active (that's an improvement)
CNYG:
- All squadrons growing slowly
- 1 squadron without meeting place (possibly Syracuse University)
- CAC started back up on 21 APR 00
- 4 of 5 units present at CAC
- Intersquadron bivouac planned for January
- Leadership days at SU planned for 23 SEP 00 and 4 NOV 00
- Ft. Drum attendance: sufficient (4 of 5 squadrons sent cadets)
- New CAC Officers:
- C/2Lt. Mike Perry (Chairperson)
- C/1st Lt Mike Kieloch (Vice- Chairperson)
- C/TSgt Schlotterbeck(Recorder)
FLG:
- Some squadrons lacking cadets
- Organizing group functions
- Group bivouac canceled
- Orientation flights going steadily
- Group CAC is very weak/lacking participation
- Recruiting in progress
- Fund raisers: Bottle drive raised about $230
- K-Mart fund-raiser raised $2,000 for Rochester
- Airshow participation planned for 26-27 August 00
- Currently scheduling group banquet
- KC-135 flights
- Ft. Drum attendance: approx. twenty-seven cadets
- Multiple SAREXes are in planning stage
- Sent 4 cadets to national activities (GSAR, COS, and PJOC)
- New CAC Officers:
- C/1st Lt Missy Mortimer (Chairperson)
- C/1st Lt Anthony Rocco (Vice-Chairperson)
- Recorder position is vacant
NYCG:
- Not handed in
MEG:
- Scotia Memorial Day Parade
- Memorial Day service at Watervliet Arsenal
- First aid & CPR courses (thirteen qualified
cadets)
- Orientation flights
- C-130 flights out of Stratton
- Airshow at Schenectady
- BSA Camporee (recruiting and static displays)
- Ft. Drum attendance: fifteen in-flight cadets, upwards of ten cadet staff
- Recently planned bivouac canceled
- New Cadet Advisory Council Officers:
- C/2nd Lt Ian Vonie (Chairperson)
- C/Maj Brian Brown (Vice-Chairperson)
- Recorder position is vacant
SEG:
- Second annual group banquet
- Ft. Drum attendance excellent (seventeen cadets)
- Fundraisers (goes towards cadet scholarships)
- ES, First Aid, and CPR classes
- Membership is growing/cadets are advancing
- Good performance at wing SAREX
- New Cadet Advisory Council Officers:
- C/2nd Lt Paul Dolce (Chairperson)
- C/SMSgt Gustin Stamatinos (Vice-Chairperson)
- C/MSgt Robert Kretschman (Recorder)
WNYG:
- SAREX on 19 AUG 00
- Thirty cadets assisted at Airshow
- Ten cadets assisted at Jamestown Airshow
- New Cadet Advisory Council Officers:
- C/Maj Miles (chairperson)
- C/2nd Lt Kevin Christner (vice-chairperson)
- C/TSgt Richard Ball (recorder)
DISCUSSION ON THE NEW CAC TERM (1047
hrs):
What should the function of the CAC be
and what is our major focus?
- Before concentrating on planning activities the
primary function of the NYWG CAC should be to concentrate on problem solving.
- Motion to Vote by C/1st Lt Neville; seconded by
C/MSgt Giddens
- Unanimously passed
Group Reports and Minutes
- All Group Reports must be typed, presented to
the NYWG CAC, and handed in to the NYWG CAC Recorder at each wing CAC meeting.
- All minutes should be typed up and handed in to
NYWG recorder at each NYWG CAC meeting.
New York Wing CAC Officer’s Responsibilities
- Chairperson
- To keep the CAC on track
- To facilitate the meetings
- Vice-Chairpeople
- To assist in the execution of the Chairperson’s
duties
- Recorder
- To gather all group reports and organize the wing
CAC minutes to be handed in to the Director of Cadet Program
OLD BUSINESS:
Customs and Courtesies:
- C/1Lt.Rocco recognized the lack of Customs and
Courtesies.
- Delegates are urged to talk to all squadrons about
military bearing.
- C/MSgt Tinston believes that some squadrons are
better than others are at Customs and courtesies.
- C/Capt Cucchiara said that pushing Customs and
Courtesies is not hazing. It's a must!
- C/2nd Lt Gavin said that a 5-15 minute review
resulted in a great improvement.
- CAPF 50 can be used as a performance evaluation.
- Some solutions to the issue are:
- Correcting on the spot, but NOT dropping cadets
(pushups)
- Have a training flight w/ qualified staff for
basic cadets.
Wing Conference Activities (1106 hrs):
-Some Ideas are:
- Service Academy Representatives, power point competition,
and Guest Speakers
- C/1Lt.Rocco likes guest speakers
- C/2Lt.Vonie says the Representatives should not try to “sell” the academies,
but
to give general knowledge.
- Motion to continue the discussion at the next
meeting by C/1st Lt Neville; seconded by
C/2nd Lt Vonie.
Voting of the Vice-Chairpeople (1123 hrs):
- Who votes for who?
- C/2nd Lt Vonie said that everybody should vote
for everybody because we all have a common goal.
- C/2nd Lt Christner said that the north should
vote for the north and the south vote for the south.
- C/2nd Lt Perry agreed with C/2nd Lt Vonie's belief.
- Move to vote on each delegate voting for each
Vice-Chairperson by C/1st Lt Neville; seconded by C/MSgt Tinston
- 4 to3 - passed
Move to vote on moving on to new business by C/1st
Lt Neville; seconded by C/2nd Lt Vonie
Unanimously passed
NEW BUSINESS:
New York Wing Calendar:
- 17-19 AUG - National Board meeting
- 19 AUG - Wing SAREX
- 22-24 SEP - NER Conference
- 30 SEP - Encampment Debrief (tentative)
- 7 OCT - NYWG CAC meeting at West Point (tentative)
- 1 NOV - Applications due for NYWG Leadership Encampment
2001 senior command staff
- 9 DEC - NYWG CAC meeting at MEG headquarters
- 31 DEC - Applications for Cadet of the Year, NCO
of the Year, National Activities, and scholarships are due
- 1 JAN - Applications for NYWG Leadership Encampment
2001 cadet command staff and first Sgt. are due
- 13 JAN 0 NYWG Review Boards for IACE, Cadet of
the Year, and NCO of the Year applicants at Stratton ANG Base
1152 hrs - Motion to adjourn the meeting and reconvene
in five minutes by C/1st Lt Neville; seconded by C/MSgt Stamatinos
1157 hrs - Motion to begin the meeting by C/1st Lt
Neville; seconded by C/1st Lt Rocco
Discussion on Regulations
- C/1st Lt Rocco and C/CaptCucchiara are under orders
not to wear the unit citation ribbon by Lt Col Jones (FLG Commander)
- Major Grullon's general statement - “LOOK IT UP!”
1220 hrs - Motion to adjourn the meeting for lunch
by C/1st Lt Neville; seconded by C/2nd Lt Vonie
1330 hrs - Meeting reconvened
- Col Shachner spoke about SMSgt Biddle’s condition.
- He's in good spirits and is doing better.
- A card was passed around for all personnel attending
the CAC meeting to sign.
Wing Conference Debrief:
- C/SSgt Gibbons - There were scheduling mess-ups
and seniors did not hurry to vacate rooms that were needed by cadets.
- C/MSgt Allen thought conference was a good experience.
- C/MSgt Van Hise noted that there were problems
with coordination and communication.
- Overall there was a good set of feedback on the
cadet social.
- C/SSgt Gibbons would like to do cadet forums at
the next conference.
Drum 2K Discussion (1415 hrs):
- The observers who attended the encampment as in-flight
cadets gave their opinions. Overall they enjoyed it, but two cadets
said that it was not what they had expected.
- Major Grullon stressed the teamwork goals of encampment.
- C/SSgt Gibbons requested the schedule for the
Drum 2K debriefing.
- “Some classes were not beneficial and cadets would
have preferred that they had not been part of the curriculum.”
- Major Grullon said that these classes had to be
part of the encampment and to “…read the manual.”
- C/MSgt Stamatinos said that the O.I.'s were
vague.
- Major Grullon pointed out that the PAO did an
awesome job and there was also an improvement in OPS.
Wing PAO (1430 hrs):
- New York Wing should create
a newsletter.
- What should be put in it?
- Group activities, upcoming events, comic strip,
word puzzle, etc.
- C/Lt Col Foo wondered if NYWG had the funds to
create a newsletter.
- Major Grullon said that the newsletter will be
sent to the groups for distribution.
- All interested personnel should meet with Major
Grullon after the CAC meeting is adjourned.
- Move to vote on the creation of a newsletter by
C/1st Lt Neville; seconded by C/MSgt Stamatinos
- Unanimous
- New York Wing Web-Page
- NewYorkWing.webjump.com
- Groups should submit articles and they will be
posted on the web page.
Floor Opened for Proposals (1440 hrs):
- C/2nd Lt Vonie said that a set format was needed
for groups to give to give their reports.
- C/Capt Cucchiara said that a PT test should be
administered prior to application to National Activities such as PJOC.
- Major Grullon mentioned that a cadet conference
is being planned for SEP 01.
- All activities will be cadet oriented.
- C/SSgt Gibbons said that time should be allotted
during the CAC meeting for discussion of group activities.
- Why didn’t something happen? If it did, how did
it go?
Open Floor Discussion:
- Some squadrons were dealing with problem solving
situations and the CAC officers, delegates, and observers gave words of
advice.
The motion to adjourn the 12 AUG 00 NYWG CAC meeting
was made by Jennifer Neville, C/1st Lt, CAP and seconded by Sophia Giddens,
C/MSgt, CAP at 1546 hrs and was passed unanimously.
FOR THE COUNCIL:
Jennifer A. Neville, C/1st Lt, CAP
Patrick Parker, C/1st LT, CAP
Chairperson
Recorder
Brian Foo, C/ Lt Col, CAP
Adam Cucchiara, C/Capt, CAP
Vice-Chairperson (South)
Vice-Chairperson (North)
Henry Grullon, Major, CAP
Richard Greenhut, Colonel, CAP
Director of Cadet Program
New York Wing Commander
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